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Post by m on Sept 9, 2003 7:45:04 GMT -5
All Judeo-Christianity shows me is that, while I believe it is a valid way of finding one's path, with enough bullying throughout history, yes, of course it is going to stand up against other religions.
Seems there's inaccuracies on both sides.
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Post by m on Sept 29, 2003 14:18:00 GMT -5
Land Of The Free?
In a public school in St. Louis, a teacher spotted the suspect, fourth-grader Raymond Raines, bowing his head in prayer before lunch. The teacher stormed to Raymond's table, ordered him to stop immediately and sent him to the principal's office. The principal informed the young malefactor that praying was not allowed in school. When Raymond was again caught praying before meals on three separate occasions, he was segregated from other students, ridiculed in front of his classmates, and finally sentenced to a week's detention.
Before snack time in her kindergarten class in Saratoga Springs, N.Y., little Kayla Broadus held hands with two of her classmates and recited this prayer: "God is good, God is great, thank you, God, for my food." The alert teacher pounced on Kayla, severely reprimanded her, and reported her to the school administration. In short order, the principal sent a sternly worded letter to Kayla's parents advising them that Kayla was not allowed to pray in school, aloud or with others.
The school board then issued a triumphant press release crowing about its victory over a kindergartner praying before snack time. Thus was creeping theocracy in Saratoga Springs stopped dead in its tracks! Kayla's mother brought a lawsuit, winning Kayla the right to pray out loud. But she was still prohibited from holding hands with others while she prayed. Hearing the G-word in kindergarten might interfere with the school's efforts to teach proper sexual techniques in the first grade.
Thanks to the vigilance of an alert teacher at Lynn Lucas Middle School outside of Houston, two sisters carrying Bibles were prevented from bringing their vile material into a classroom. The teacher stopped the students at the classroom door and marched them to the principal's office. (Maybe it was just the sight of public school students carrying a book of any kind that set off alarm bells.) The sisters' mother was called and warned that the school intended to report her to Child Protective Services. When the mother arrived, the teacher threw the Bibles in the wastebasket, shouting, "This is garbage!"
In another display of tolerance at Lynn Lucas Middle School, school administrators snatched three students' books with covers displaying the Ten Commandments, ripped the covers off, threw them in the garbage, and told the students that the Ten Commandments constituted "hate speech." (Also, it would be insensitive to expose the Ten Commandments to students who had never been taught to count to 10.)
I wonder if “hate speech” includes the “No Checks” at restaurants. I mean, doesn’t it make fun of Slavic peoples?
After the massacre at Columbine High School, students and families were invited to paint tiles above student lockers. The school district had taken all reasonable precautions, immediately deploying an army of secular "grief counselors" with teddy bears to descend on the school after the attack. Nonetheless, some students painted their tiles with "objectionable" messages, such as: "4/20/99: Jesus Wept" and "God Is Love." This would not stand: The school removed 90 tiles with offending religious messages.
A federal court upheld the school's censorship of the religious tiles. Of course, Columbine school officials had earned a measure of deference after having inculcated such a fine sense of morality in their students that two boys could walk into school one day and stage a bloody massacre. You don't argue with a track record like that.
Not all mentions of religion constitute "hate speech." In Tupelo, Miss., school administrators methodically purged all Christmas carols of any religious content – and then led the children in a chant of: "Celebrate Kwanzaa!" At Pattison Elementary school in Katy, Texas, Christmas songs are banned, but students are threatened with grade reductions for refusing to sing songs celebrating other religious faiths.
There is no surer proof of Christ's divinity than that he is still so hated some 2,000 years after his death. Limbaugh's "Persecution" covers it all in staggering, heartbreaking detail. His methodical description of what is happening in our public schools alone will call to mind the hate speech banned in Columbine: "Jesus Wept."
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Post by paradoxPanda on Sept 29, 2003 21:47:41 GMT -5
"I wonder if “hate speech” includes the “No Checks” at restaurants. I mean, doesn’t it make fun of Salvic peoples? "
Ha ha ha. It'd be much more impressive, however, if you had spelled Slavic right.
"A federal court upheld the school's censorship of the religious tiles. Of course, Columbine school officials had earned a measure of deference after having inculcated such a fine sense of morality in their students that two boys could walk into school one day and stage a bloody massacre. You don't argue with a track record like that."
Not everything is about morality. Could it be that these young men had felt like outcasts all their lives for bad hair and not sharing the same beliefs as there fellow students?
"There is no surer proof of Christ's divinity than that he is still so hated some 2,000 years after his death. "
You know, I suspect that Hitler will also be hated 2000 years after his death. Not saying they're similar, just that that's not proof.
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Post by strangelilboi on Sept 30, 2003 3:14:33 GMT -5
America sounds like a fun place.
Oh we too do have the politically correct police, but they are a bit more sensible. And religion is looked upon with reverence rather than mistrust.
I now see where america i going rather horribly wrong.
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Post by m on Oct 1, 2003 8:34:32 GMT -5
Ha ha ha. It'd be much more impressive, however, if you had spelled Slavic right.D'oh! Actually I fixed it. Not everything is about morality. Could it be that these young men had felt like outcasts all their lives for bad hair and not sharing the same beliefs as there fellow students?Hey life sucks sometimes, you have to deal with it. I blame the parents for not knowing what thier kids were doing. Not everyone shoots up a school because one or two are Christian. You know, I suspect that Hitler will also be hated 2000 years after his death. Not saying they're similar, just that that's not proof.Actually Hitler is hated now, but Jesus and Hitler are hardly comparisions. America sounds like a fun place. It can be. Oh we too do have the politically correct police, but they are a bit more sensible. And religion is looked upon with reverence rather than mistrust.
I now see where america i going rather horribly wrong. So sad, but true. In the Former Soviet Union, a they allow Bibles in schools.
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Post by strangelilboi on Oct 2, 2003 5:14:20 GMT -5
Hmmm.... communism is not an insane idea. Its jsut been used by so many insane people.
Why is it that America is so weird about these things? In trying hard NOT to offend anyone, its losing the plot and offending others two times over.
I jsut read this article about a bloke who wore a Tshirt that said Bush was an international terrorist.
He was treated by your government as a traitor. I personally would have sued the principal for the inconvenience caused. www.yahoo.com/s/117281
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