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Post by Spazmatikal on Jul 17, 2002 0:27:34 GMT -5
^^ As just a Christian (not Catholic), suicide does not mean you go to hell. the greatest sin is not accepting God's savior. So, suicide only means you have a lot of explaining to do to God when your judgment day comes, not necessarily hell.
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Post by Ich Liebe Rammstein on Jul 24, 2002 19:43:57 GMT -5
^^^^^^ ohh,I was told Hell...But does anyone actually know?!
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Post by x n0ise on Jul 25, 2002 12:14:00 GMT -5
I was told that if you commit suicide you go to Hell. I'm confused. .Brite.
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Post by Ich Liebe Rammstein on Jul 27, 2002 23:05:57 GMT -5
^^^^^^ Yeah same here. Oh well,I guess we shouldn't talk about that in this thread,though.
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Post by lucette on Aug 6, 2002 16:49:05 GMT -5
Hmm, so I thought I'd come in and explain something about this pill, seen I'm from the Netherlands too. It's called the pill of Drion (he's a liberal (in american terms, not in european ones)) politician. In fact it exists already and has existed for a long time. It's easy to obtain if you know the right people and are enough master of the language (education helps) to explain why you want to die. It is used in hospitals for instance. With this pill it is always you who takes it, who brings it to your mouth and who swallows it. The legal problems start when you're, for instance, paralyzed up until your neck, and you need someone to put the pill in your mouth and give you fluid to swallow it. The person who would do that, would be, strictly speaking, a murderer. That's where the euthanasia law comes in. It protects the one that helps you die from prosecution. These laws are very strict and there are many controls on the doctors that "perform" the euthanasia. A doctor cannot perform euthanasia just because the family asks for it, for instance. Now, the whole controversy about the pill of Drion started when this mr. Drion proposed to make it available to everybody that had a wish to commit suicide. He thought people should have a right to have one of those pills next to their bed so to speak. The idea was eventually rejected not for ideological reasons but for practical ones. It's very easily ill-used, as you can imagine. Personally I don't think it would have been such a bad idea. A free human being ultimately has the right to decide whether he wants to live or die, and for a government to provide a humane way to get out of life would not have been bad. I think it's very hypocritical to say: a man is wise enough, or responsible enough, to vote for his goverment but not to decide whether he wants to die or not. Then, suddenly, he has not such a clear view on things anymore?
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Post by toxicavenger on Feb 24, 2006 14:33:47 GMT -5
I'm a christian, and I think if someone kills themselves, they go to hell. My opinion. Actually no. Christ died for all sins for all of us. He didn't say, "All your sins will be forgiven except suicide." A sin, is a sin, is a sin. People do kill themselves when they can see no other way, and they do so under extreme pain and anguish. But to legalize and sell a pill to make it easier is unconscionable!
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