Larigirl
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Post by Larigirl on Feb 18, 2002 20:24:46 GMT -5
cassiopeia - i understand that the fetus cannot not think but i believe it may be able to feel emotionally. i believe that a fetus has a soul. having a soul enables some sort of feeling or recognition of being alive.
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Post by theLadyMadonna on Feb 19, 2002 1:03:38 GMT -5
^^^
The point is though that it's physically impossible for a fetus to feel emotionally. Just because you believe that a fetus can feel doesn't mean that it can
You see the difference?
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Post by emilythewonder on Feb 19, 2002 3:03:36 GMT -5
I'm very much Pro-Choice. I don't understand it when people say *it's murder! ...but it's ok to get an abortion if the woman was raped.* How is it not murder even if she is raped? That's like going completely backwards to what you were saying. I don't believe that it's murder though. I think that a woman should always have the right to *choose* what happens to her body. I do agree that she shouldn't have sex if she doesn't want a baby, but if a 13 year old on crack gets pregnant, I don't think that she should have to have the baby. The baby will most likely have an awful life anyway. Isn't freedom important? By taking away the right to choose whether you get an abortion or not, it's taking away a big chunk of freedom also. ...just an opinion... don't hate me! [shadow=magenta,left,300] [/shadow]
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Larigirl
Junior Member
whose eyes are these? pm me if you wanna know!
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Post by Larigirl on Feb 19, 2002 16:06:59 GMT -5
ok, i understand that it's *physically* inpossible for a fetus to think or feel but there are some things that go beyond physics. you can't prove or disprove the exsistence of a soul using science. that's just a matter of conviction.
p.s. ladymadonna, don't talk to me like i'm stupid. because i'm not.
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Post by theLadyMadonna on Feb 19, 2002 21:01:49 GMT -5
Larigirl, maybe if you didn't make accusations that don't have anything to do with the subject I would apologize. But seeing as this doesnt have anything to about whether or not you're stupid, I won't.
All I'm saying is that a fetus cannot feel. Having a soul is a completely different thing all together- at least by what I believe.
You may not be stupid but it's ignorant to believe that someone who cannot feel should determine whether or not they have the right to live. If they don't know any better I don't see the problem.
emilythewonder- I agree with you 100%
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Post by Cassiopeia on Feb 19, 2002 21:49:09 GMT -5
I agree with emilythewonder. She said exactly what I was trying to say.
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Post by pettyluv on Feb 19, 2002 22:17:12 GMT -5
I consider myself pro-life, and I think that abortion is sick and disgusting and I would never do it myself. But being the true conservative that I am, I do not feel that I have the right to tell you what to do with your body. I have the right to tell you it is sick, disgusting, and completely immoral, but the gvt should not have the power to stop it from happening. But what the government should do is not allow tax funding of abortions. If you want to do it that is fine, but you should not expect my tax dollars to pay for it.
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Post by LisaRocksYourWorld, yo on Feb 19, 2002 22:52:59 GMT -5
The thing is... when they cut abortion funds, they tend to cut Planned Parenthood funds, too, therefore creating more abortions because people aren't properly educated.
As I said before, the only way we can prevent abortion is to educate people on birth control. You'd be surprised... Most teenagers think it's okay if he "pulls out" and that you can only get pregnant 2 days a month. Protesting won't get anywhere. Yes, though I'm pro-choice, I don't think abortions should happen. I think it should be prevented at all costs and only done if it's absolutely necessary and the mother can think she can live with the guilt she may have.
As much as we debate over this... Pro-choicers and Pro-lifers will never agree on the subject.
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Post by girlpoet21 on Feb 20, 2002 8:09:31 GMT -5
Being a true conservative, I know the government has every right to say murder is wrong. They say an adult can't kill another adult, so why not say it's wrong to kill a defenseless child just because of it's place of residence? It's not just a womans body we're talking about, we're talking about another living being inside of her. A baby that has been born cannot feed itself, cannot defend itself, and sometimes cannot breathe by itself. The mother has to feed it, protect it, and may have to help it breathe, or else give it up to someone who can. If she decided she doesn't want to do either of those things, should she have the right to kill it?
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Post by pettyluv on Feb 20, 2002 8:18:03 GMT -5
^^You know, I agree with you, but the prospect of "banning" abortion would be political suicide, as most people wouldn't favor such a law. I wish it could be done but it is just not realistic.
If it ever was banned people are still going to do it. Abortion isnt something that has been around for 50 years, its been around forever. If people are going to do it, they might as well have done in a way that they will not kill themselves.
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Post by ¤SassySteph0248¤ on Feb 20, 2002 19:17:25 GMT -5
The only time I would agree with a woman having an abortion would be if she was raped, because she didn't choose for that to happen to her. But other then that I'm against abortion because it's a baby,so that would be just like murdering someone.....
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Post by Cassiopeia on Feb 20, 2002 19:41:14 GMT -5
girlpoet - What about if a pregnant woman starved herself so that the fetus would not survive? Do you think that would be wrong?
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Post by girlpoet21 on Feb 20, 2002 22:40:41 GMT -5
petty- abortion is still dangerous, and is still killing women.
cassie-yes, that would be wrong.
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Post by emilythewonder on Feb 21, 2002 0:12:41 GMT -5
Thanx ladymadonna and cassi, I'm glad to know that people agree with me My friends and I had this big arguement about abortion and I thought I was alone in what I believed. Thanx again [glow=teal,2,300] ¤*¤EMILY¤*¤[/glow]
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Post by sunny.side.up on Feb 22, 2002 8:54:36 GMT -5
>>But what the government should do is not allow tax funding of abortions. If you want to do it that is fine, but you should not expect my tax dollars to pay for it.<<
That would not work. That way, only the richer people among us could have an abortion, and not the poor people who couldn't support a child because of the money.
>>The only time I would agree with a woman having an abortion would be if she was raped, because she didn't choose for that to happen to her. But other then that I'm against abortion because it's a baby,so that would be just like murdering someone.....<<
As said before, that doesn't make any sense, because why would it be ok to kill a baby if it was the result of rape? That's just as much murder as it is to 'kill' any other fetus.
~*Esther*~
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