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Post by Soleluna on Feb 26, 2002 12:49:40 GMT -5
I am not sure. I mean, all the people who died should be remembered, and it is a sacred place now... If they rebuild it, they should do it somewhere else.
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Post by -*- Little Miss Strawberry -*- on Mar 1, 2002 15:58:05 GMT -5
Practically: where has all the business that was in the towers gone? There needs to be something for that.
I say build it up if you like, but what is the American obsession with tall buildings? You don't need tall buildings. I say build a modern building, completely different size and shape. So not small out of fear, just new and modern and cool.
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Post by Toxic-Avenger on Mar 4, 2002 14:57:38 GMT -5
/\ Two reasons why we like 'em tall. One is, we build them because we can. And we like to see what we can do as far as engineering and building go, now if, as you say, we could build "cool." I'm personally tired of the glass box and the retro box. I want to see domes and hexagonal buildings.
Second, we build 'em tall because real estate can be hugely expensive, and space limitations, so we build up. The taller the better.
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Post by Michaelangelo on Mar 10, 2002 17:49:54 GMT -5
I've been thinking about this a lot, and I hear y'all on both sides. I live about three miles uptown from where the WTC used to be, and ashmaddie's right...it's like a piece of NYC has been ripped out. We can't leave that space empty...we need to move on. I know it sounds callous, but life has to go on--we are still all here, after all-- and we have to stand up against terrorism. Many of you have said it, but I'll say it again: we can't not rebuild the towers out of fear. After the '93 bombing, we didn't tear them down because we were afraid someone might try to bomb them again, did we? We can't do that now. Love, ~The Kitten~
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Post by Toledo.Chick on Mar 13, 2002 20:07:57 GMT -5
I voted "No."
Like Excessive_Energy2 said, It would be just another thing for some dumb-idiots and gayrods to bomb. I think it should be a memorial.
P.S.How do you put pics in your posts like that?
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Post by popcorn on Mar 18, 2002 19:38:13 GMT -5
I think you guys are missing the point -- and probably most are not from the city (except for Kittenette) and probably can't truly understand.
I am a New Yorker (all my life) and I lost 3 people that I knew on 9/11. The WTC was something New Yorkers were proud of and it was something that was a part of everyone's life. I used to take my bicycle from my house 7 mi. away to the towers and back every day along the river and the morning of 9/11, on my way to school, I remember staring at the towers from the train window for no reason what so ever (It was about 7:30) and the shock of geting a cell phone text message in science class that the WTC was on fire and then hearing my cell phone bleep a distinct "no carrier" tone around 9:30 am when the first tower fell and severed the phone connection.
I still have a WTC pass for the "Extra-tight" security after 1993 for an event I went to there and I remember eating lunch at windows on the world and marveling at the airplanes which flew below the restaurant.
I think that the towers need to be rebuilt - not necessarially the same way (new design, whatever) -- and the plaza (yes, there was quite a bit of space between the towers) should be a memorial. Why? It has nothing to with respecting those that died or showing the terrorists (that's what a memorial is for), it is simply that the WTC had so much business space which it has now lost. No business space translates to companies leaving the city, which is not good at all for our economy.
Toxic sugegsted: <<I say build a WTC elsewhere in New York City, and bigger, taller and better>> That can't be done because there IS no space in Manhattan to rebuild it and it would never be the same as the original site. I see the skyline EVERYDAY and something is definately missing that needs to be replaced. And this time, they need SAM missiles on it. (fyi, SAM is surface-to-air missile for taking out airplanes)
The other thing I think isn't so good is everyone's calling the terrorists dumbasses and Toledo put it, <<gayrods>>. [glow=red,2,300]TOLEDO, watch ur language[/glow]Any1 who pull off a terrorist attack is not stupid, and has nothing to do with gay ppl
It may seem strange to us, but US policy isn't that great and often ends up hurting foreigners. In addition, many of them are almost "brainwashed" by Arab media which is almost always government controlled.
Think about it. Your opinions are formed by what you c on TV or hear from others (who may have read it or gotten it from some other media place) The potential terrorists live in horrible situations, and they have nothing to loose and everything to gain (20 virgins).
... anyway back to rebuilding: the city needs the WTC space and it would be very comforting to see something in the sky. let's face it: we can't let ourselves be ruled by a fear of terrorism
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Post by NaruNarusegawa on Mar 18, 2002 19:45:38 GMT -5
I think popcorn made a good point. If nothing is rebuilt in NY, that will have a VERY bad effect on the economy over there. All those businesses would have to leave and go somewheres else, and it would be a domino effect with loss of jobs/houses and so on just like the whole issue with terrorism as a whole has effected the US. I don't want to see that happen over there. @_@
However, on the issue about foreign affairs. I don't think people should making excuses for what these people did. That's like a cop going "well I don't think he should of hit her but she shouldn't of pissed him off".
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Post by OxNutz on Mar 18, 2002 23:35:10 GMT -5
Let this be an official notice.
If the WTC is rebuilt, I'm personally going to blow it up as a demonstration. Of what? The fact that someone who isn't down with the whole population control bit can stil cause some havoc. And you can take that to Kinko's.
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Post by .Hunting:High:and:Low. on Mar 18, 2002 23:45:26 GMT -5
^^ Wouldn't go advertising that, if I were you. With the way security is now, I wouldn't be too surprised if the FBI or CIA showed up at your door.
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Post by OxNutz on Mar 18, 2002 23:52:30 GMT -5
If they were truly concerned, they'd be here by now. They're overlooking me, but the reckoning will soon come. Balance shall be restored.
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Post by Michaelangelo on Mar 19, 2002 18:39:29 GMT -5
I have two things to say: 1. Ox Nuts, if you have nothing at all remotely intelligent to say, don't open your mouth. That's disgusting, and honestly, I wish I could knee you in the nuts right now. (No pun intended...hyuk-yuk-yuk.) 2. Has anyone else noticed how immature so many of you sound? "FU"? Giving the terrorists the middle finger? Goy! You people are beyond words. Wow, here's a great tourist attraction, let's put a giant HAND in our skyline! And whoa, it's giving us the finger! Gosh golly! *shakes her head* People are just so stupid. *sigh* Love, ~The Kitten~
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Post by popcorn on Mar 19, 2002 18:40:08 GMT -5
Hey, Toxic, I was kidding about the SAMs... Millitary bases in the WTC is not cool and shows terrorists how scared we are (besides, do u want live ammunition in a skyscaper???) 8) OxNuts, that's ******* sick... what do you even mean by the ppln control??? If you oppose rebuilding the WTC give some reasons, but what I was trying to say is that its very hard to explain why unless you live in NYC (the buildings were everyday life) Places like schools, stores that are part of daily life get rebuilt if they get destroyed, so should the WTC. You say you'd blow it up -- which btw shows an extreme disregard for human life. Do you have any idea how terryfying it is to watch two enourmous buildings explode and then fall down, with clouds of ash rolling down streets like an A-bomb explosion? NO. Your post really disgusted me, the level you're down on is on the same one as the terrorists -- if not lower. Oh, yes... Big Brother IS watching. Big Brother is always watching... *knock, knock, Neo.* ***edited b//c of typo
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Post by pettyluv on Mar 19, 2002 19:05:36 GMT -5
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Post by .Hunting:High:and:Low. on Mar 19, 2002 19:48:11 GMT -5
2. Has anyone else noticed how immature so many of you sound? "FU"? Giving the terrorists the middle finger? Goy! You people are beyond words. Wow, here's a great tourist attraction, let's put a giant HAND in our skyline! And whoa, it's giving us the finger! Gosh golly!
Oh geez, Kittenette, lighten up. How is it immature? It's an idea, nothing more, nothing less. And if I was serious, what is so wrong with that? Granted I'm not a big one for using the "bird", but are you telling me that you have never flipped off someone? <shakes head> Plus, I don't think very many people would even know it was a hand...
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Post by dubiety on Mar 19, 2002 20:04:28 GMT -5
i'm kind of undecided on whether or not it should be rebuilt. my dad grew up in Manhattan till he was about 18. he knew people in the WTC (who were firefighters) that died when it went down. he's all for rebuilding it.
but i personally don't think that i should be sticking my nose up in this business. i think that it should be left up to the people of New York. i honestly don't know what the hell is going on over there since i'm up in Cali, except for what i see on tv. it was freaked up just even hear about a terrorist attack on my country, but to have it happening right there in your own state is hell.
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