Should Homosexuals Be Able to Marry & Adopt?

[Cassiopeia]

>>I do oppose gays adopting children, because, having grown up with two parents, male and female, I can see the amazing qualities and bonuses from having a man and a woman in the house, all the time. I can relate to men so much better from having a loving father figure, and I have friends who don't have men around them all the time, and they're not so "sorted". They don't know how to act or relate to men. Similarly, if I grow up without a mother, I would be totally mucked up, because my mum gives me an idea on how to live life. I think there are so many qualities in having a mother and a father around you the whole time. It's mostly obvious that those that don't just miss out. *But not wanting to offend anyone that has grown up in a single-parent family* <<

So do you also oppose of a single person adopting a child?

[excessive_energy2]

I'm cool with it  8)

[pettyluv]

I really actually do dissagree with a single person adopting as well.  I think the best enviroment for a child is with a mother and a father.  

[theLadyMadonna]

^^

What if the mother's a drug addict and beats her son and the father gambles his pay cheque away every month? Are you saying it's more stable for a child to grow up in that environment than in a family where 2 parents, no matter what gender they are, love the child/children?

I don't agree with that at all. I don't think it matters WHO the parents are as long as they love their children and provide them with mental support growing up. Anyone can provide that, it doesn't matter what sexual preference they have.

[pettyluv]

I think it is ideal to have a strong mother and father figure in the family.  Obviously the situation you presented would obviously be a bad one, but I do not think that homosexuals can present the child with a mother and father figures which are ideal in the devolopement of any child.

[sunny.side.up]

>>I think it is ideal to have a strong mother and father figure in the family. Obviously the situation you presented would obviously be a bad one, but I do not think that homosexuals can present the child with a mother and father figures which are ideal in the devolopement of any child.<<

Why do they need both a mother and a father figure? In the first place, in a lot of 'normal' families, the example the parents are setting for their children is not very great either. Some parents learn them to be racist, abuse them, neglect them, etc. In that case, what good did it do that the kid had both a mother and a father figure? And what does for example a mother have that a father doesn't? As long as both parents love the child and treat him/her well, I think the parents' sex doestn't matter.

~*Esther*~

[80s Child]

I do agree that it is important to have role models of both genders in a child's life. But loving role models of both genders can come from aunts, uncles, older siblings, cousins, godparents, family friends etc. It doesn't necessarily have to be a parent, but someone who can provide love and support, which can come from anywhere.
I would much rather see, as others have mentioned, a child raised in a loving home with just one parent or two parents of the same sex, then one raised in an abusive household with two parents of the same sex, or bounced around from foster home to foster home while they wait to be adopted. I think an ideal environment for a child is love, and anyone who is capable of providing that for a child should be allowed to adopt. End of story.

[Cassiopeia]

Just because someone had their child the "natural" way (giving birth) does not me that they are fit to be parents.  Of course, that is all personal opinion, and the government has no right to regulate it.  In the same sense, I believe that the government does not have a right to regulate the fact that only a man and a woman should have a child.

pettyluv, it's obvious that you feel that a married man and woman are the type of parents that are best fit for raising a child.  And that's fine.  It's your opinion, and I respect it.  But you know as well as I that the government has no right to impose laws and restrictions on issues relating to morality and family values.

Someone on CC had a great quote in her signature:
"Having a child makes you no more of a parent than owning a piano makes you a pianist."

[theLadyMadonna]

"Having a child makes you no more of a parent than owning a piano makes you a pianist."

I agree with that quote all the way. I really don't think it should be about what gender your parents are or what sexual preference they prefer. It should be about whether or not they provide for you in the way that you need. That's all I see to it. I mean, if your lesbian parents are abusive, then they're no more fit to look after you than heterosexual parents.

[NaruNarusegawa]

Wow, I've noticed people seem to try to put themselves in a place they know nothing about, and then make so many generalizations, it's painful to listen to.

Someone said if their parents were homosexual, they'd have no friends. What basis is this on? Did you choose a lot of homophobes to hang out with or something?

My Mother is gay, and I have a lot of friends who could really care less about that. My Mother's sexual orientation has nothing to do with who *I* am, and everybody I hang out with know that. If you know someone who wouldn't be your friend because of your parents sexual orientation, then they're not even worth spending time with at all even with straight parents.

Someone said they would teach their child that homosexuality is "the way to go". Wow, I've never met a homosexual who acted in such a matter. What basis is THAT from? I'm straight, and in a relationship that my Mother fully *supports* 100%. Not once has she EVER try to discourage me towards guys, not once did she tell me to try to "swing the other way" so to speak, and not once did it affect our mother/daughter relationship.

Whether or not they could adopt, someone said they're against single parents adopting.

Question: What if it was a loving family with two straight parents, and one of them *god forbid* get into a car accident, and get killed leaving the other person alone with the child? Should the child then be taken away?

I guess it's obvious my opinion on this matter, I'm for gay marriage, and gay adoption.

What someone does in their bedroom does not change *who* they are and that's what should matter.

[Cassiopeia]

>>If you know someone who wouldn't be your friend because of your parents sexual orientation, then they're not even worth spending time with at all even with straight parents. <<

This is an excellent point that you bring up.  I was just thinking the same thing myself.  My parents are straight, but I wouldn't waste my time with someone who I knew would have a different opinion of me if my parents were gay.  I'd rather have no friends than superficial ones like those.  But most people don't care about what their friends' parents do in their bedroom.  I sure don't.

[diamond.in.the.rough]

I believe absolutely 100% that homosexuals should be able to marry and raise children.

Recently where I'm from people had to vote on a bill that would allow gay couples to marry in this state. It lost by a landslide and that upset me. What gives people the right to say 'you're not allowed to marry that person'? Love is love no matter what...

And sure, a gay couple raising kids may not be and "ideal" situation in some peoples minds but what is "ideal" anyway? I say as long as the kids are raised with love there's no problem.

[pettyluv]

^^A great example of democracy!  Is the will of the people not good enough??  It seems that the majority of the people in your state wish to maintain the American family structure and I commend them.

[NaruNarusegawa]

"^^A great example of democracy!  Is the will of the people not good enough??  It seems that the majority of the people in your state wish to maintain the American family structure and I commend them."

Then, what's my family? Are we not an American family too?  My Mother, and her girlfriend aren't bad people, and they with my Father have done an excellent job at raising me considering the fact I don't do anything illegal, immoral, and I actually have a future in mind for myself.

But let's look at some of my brother's friends shall we.

They have the "American family structure" yet Crystal in the last year has been with 14 guys (she counted them with me and she's just 16 years old), my brother's friend Mike is in and out of Juvi, and get's high on a regular basis, and ect ect. They came from that "perfect family structure" you know with the MAN and WOMAN taking care of them, geez.

What's wrong with this picture?

So my Mother shouldn't be allowed to take care of me, and raise me to be a good citizen, but it's okay for their parents to treat them like crap which they do, and raise them to be criminals just because their parents are straight?

[diamond.in.the.rough]

>>A great example of democracy!  Is the will of the people not good enough??  It seems that the majority of the people in your state wish to maintain the American family structure and I commend them." <<

I really didn't think of it as a great example of democracy with the people wishing to maintain the American family structure. I consider it a great example of prejudice though. If people wanted to maintain the American family then why don't they outlaw divorce too?