IAmMe
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Post by IAmMe on Feb 20, 2002 13:44:21 GMT -5
Personally, I think they should have every right to marry. If a heterosexual has fallen in love, there's no question why they shouldn't tie the knot. But for homosexuals, the situation changes. You hear things like, 'Oh, that is so wrong!', or, 'Ugh, they shouldn't be allowed to do that!' Why should the standards be any different? Heterosexuals, homosexuals, they're all people. So why should they be treated differently?
As for adopting, I'm all for that. If the couple are fit and appropriate to adopt a child, they should be given the same circumstances as heterosexuals.
What are your thoughts?
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Lonely3Angel
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Post by Lonely3Angel on Feb 20, 2002 16:58:53 GMT -5
Annie, you pretty much took the words right out of my mouth.
Yeah, I think they have *every* right to marry, and adopt. If their home life is good, and they can give the child proper care-just like every adoptive parent is supposed to, then of course.
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Post by pettyluv on Feb 20, 2002 17:30:46 GMT -5
I disagree on both counts.
I do not think that should be able to marry. Marriage in the secular sense is not about "love" all it is, is the legal union of a man and a women. I see no reason why this would or should be enacted.
On the case of gay adoptions, I oppose it even more strongly. I do not agree with gays raising children, it is not right in my opinion. It will lead to the bastardization of the American family and family structure and I vehemently oppose it.
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Post by LisaRocksYourWorld, yo on Feb 20, 2002 17:39:22 GMT -5
As I said in another post, love has no gender. It goes deeper than someone's genitals. If two people love each other, why should it matter if they have the same sex organs? Marraige is about two people coming together who want to spend the rest of their lives together. Just because someone is "different," they shouldn't be restricted of that right.
About adoptions... I agree with that too. In fact, I'm sure theres a lot of homosexuals who could raise children better than a lot of heterosexuals. As long as the child has both parents active in his or her life, there's no problem. Theres no guarantee that the child would turn out gay, not that it even matters, but I can guarantee that child would have NO prejudice against anyone whatsoever, growing up in an enviornment with two parents of the same gender.
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Post by Cassiopeia on Feb 20, 2002 19:51:53 GMT -5
>>On the case of gay adoptions, I oppose it even more strongly. I do not agree with gays raising children, it is not right in my opinion. It will lead to the bastardization of the American family and family structure and I vehemently oppose it. <<
Why? Just because someone is homosexual, that does not mean they can't be good parents. What if a gay or lesbian person is single and wants to adopt a kid? Isn't that the same as a single heterosexual adopting a child? Or are you against that too? I don't see anything wrong with single parenthood. It is not up to the governent to regulate morality or family values. You're a republican; I'm surprised you don't believe that. Also, wouldn't you rather have those children who are unwanted by their biological parents to live with a single parent rather than spend 18 years of their life in a foster home?
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Post by horsesalltheway on Feb 20, 2002 19:56:17 GMT -5
I think homosexuals have every right to marry! They are in love... and they want to spend their life together it will work out!
As for adopting though, I don't think the should be able to. It's just because I know if I was adopted into a homosexual family I would have very few if any friends and would be learning that homosexuality is the way to go rather than being straight so there wouldn't be much room to make up my own decision.
No flames please, that's just my opinion.
Nikki
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Post by Cassiopeia on Feb 20, 2002 22:11:42 GMT -5
>>As for adopting though, I don't think the should be able to. It's just because I know if I was adopted into a homosexual family I would have very few if any friends and would be learning that homosexuality is the way to go rather than being straight so there wouldn't be much room to make up my own decision. <<
Homosexual parents would not necessarily raise homosexual kids. Sexual orientation is not learned. Anyway, I'm assuming that your parents are straight... but do you think that being straight is necessarily the "way to go"? If that's the case, then why do many homosexuals have straight parents?
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Post by tootrickyforyou on Feb 20, 2002 22:19:33 GMT -5
<<Homosexual parents would not necessarily raise homosexual kids. Sexual orientation is not learned. Anyway, I'm assuming that your parents are straight... but do you think that being straight is necessarily the "way to go"? If that's the case, then why do many homosexuals have straight parents? >>
You took the words right out of my mouth. I know if I was a gay parent raising a kid, I would be especially carefull to make sure that my kid got to choose what they want. Most gays are made fun of because they like the same sex, and probably had been pressured by their parents to be straight. I wouldn't pressure my kid at all to be gay.
As for the married thing, I agree with that totally. Love has no age or gender, and if they love each other, and want to get married, so be it. I see no problem with it.
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Post by Soleluna on Feb 21, 2002 8:00:12 GMT -5
I think they have [shadow=silver,left,300]EVERY RIGHT[/shadow] to marry and adopt kids. No one should prevent them from doing this.
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Post by sunny.side.up on Feb 21, 2002 13:01:26 GMT -5
>>As for adopting though, I don't think the should be able to. It's just because I know if I was adopted into a homosexual family I would have very few if any friends and would be learning that homosexuality is the way to go rather than being straight so there wouldn't be much room to make up my own decision.<<
If that's true, then straight parents would be learning their kids that heterosexuality is 'the way to go' and there wouldn't be much room for them to make up their own decisions either. But since that's not the case, I don't think it would be any problem for kids being raised by gay parents. I think it might influence them in a way of being more open minded as for different sexualities (I have never heard of gays having something against straight people).
~*Esther*~
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Post by LittleGreenDream on Feb 21, 2002 17:32:32 GMT -5
I deffinately think they should be able to marry and adopt. Someone up there, I forget who it was, I wasn't really paying attention to the names said that if homosexuals adopted they would be teaching their kids to be homosexual, or whatever. I disagree. Just because your parents are strait, doesn't mean you will be, and just because your parents are gay, doesn't mean you will be. Who you fall in love with is not taught by parents or anyone else, it's just whoever you fall in love with.
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Post by dubiety on Feb 21, 2002 20:09:12 GMT -5
i think that i will go with almost everyone's say on this subject, and say that they do have the right to marry. i most certainly do not agree with it, but i will not hold that against them. its no skin off my back if two homosexuals decide to marry one another.
i haven't never meet someone who has been raised by homosexual parents, so i can't exactly voice my opinion on this issue. though the child's emotional well-being will *always* be an issue no matter what. for now, i would have to say, yes they should be able to adopt a child.
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Post by 80s Child on Feb 21, 2002 23:08:56 GMT -5
I see nothing wrong with homosexuals getting married or adopting. They're human beings, just like everyone else, and therefore deserve the exact same rights as everyone else. Incidentally, here where I live in Quebec they're just about to legalize same-sex civil unions. I'm ecstatic. ;D Two gay men are getting married in the spring here, and I can honestly say I'm thrilled about it. GO QUEBEC!!!!! ;D
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good.disaster
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Post by good.disaster on Feb 21, 2002 23:58:22 GMT -5
i believe they have the right to marry and adopt children. the fact that a person is homosexual does not impair their ability to raise a child nor will it necessarily affect the child's sexuality. if a child raised by homosexuals ends up being homosexual themself, it is not any more a learned/inherited trait than it is coincidence. a parent cannot "make" a child of a certain sexuality. by saying a child raised by homosexuals would become homosexual also, you must also believe a child raised by heterosexuals will be heterosexual, in which case either sexuality would cancel the other out after a while. to claim homosexuality can only be taught and/or that it is not "natural" cannot hold true simply because homosexuality (or bi-sexuality) would have to come about just as naturally as heterosexuality for it to continually be present in generation after generation. if you believe it's an acquired trait, there wouldn't be room for it to just come about without it occuring somewhere previously. furthermore, a parent cannot teach you sexuality, however they can teach you how to be more accepting of it.
"I would have very few if any friends and would be learning that homosexuality is the way to go rather than being straight so there wouldn't be much room to make up my own decision."
i realize it's your opinion and you are completely entitled to state it, but this is mine... that, to me, sounds rather selfish and rude. you can't pick your parents and you can't pick your children. you can't choose how either one should act. if a child has homosexual parents, they should love and respect them anyway, and the number of friends that the child would or would not have as a result should make no difference, nor should it be a worry of the child's. (and i really don't think everyone will find out about it and go, "eww. so-and-so's parents are gay. we can't be friends with them.")
my parents are straight. i won't say that either heterosexuality or homosexuality is "right", but neither is wrong in my opinion.
"Marriage in the secular sense is not about "love" all it is, is the legal union of a man and a women."
but why enter into that "legal union" with someone if you didn't love them? if you didn't love and trust them, i doubt you'd want to be legally bound with them like that. if love, mutual respect, tolerance and fair treatment emotionally, physically and/or psychologically between two people wasn't an aspect of marriage, there wouldn't be a need for divorce. if two homosexuals can achieve that, they shouldn't be denied the chance to be legally considered as a married couple. on the contrary, if one considers love to not be a basis for marriage, the fact that they may love a person of the same sex should then not hinder the legality of the marriage.
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Post by -*- Little Miss Strawberry -*- on Feb 22, 2002 7:22:01 GMT -5
For the majority of the time, I DO find myself disagreeing with homosexuality. It is something that doesn't really comply with my religious beliefs and I just don't agree with it.
However, I do think that as a human being, I need to totally respect homosexuals and what they choose to do or not do. I don't have to agree with what they do, but I can respect who they are - human beings.
Isn't the act of being married about joining together a man and a woman? That is what a couple promises on their wedding day. So the actual vows promised on a wedding day would not really have much relavance for homosexuals.
I am all for commitment, though. If homosexuals remain homosexuals (I am not suggesting that they should necessarily try to change their sexual orientation) then they should be allowed to commit themselves to one another. If they have a serious relationship, then like married couples they may want to make that known to those around them and make a legal commitment, so I think that, whilst I disagree with the act of homosexuality (and therefore technically disagree with homosexual marriage) I think they should have the legal right to get married.
I do oppose gays adopting children, because, having grown up with two parents, male and female, I can see the amazing qualities and bonuses from having a man and a woman in the house, all the time. I can relate to men so much better from having a loving father figure, and I have friends who don't have men around them all the time, and they're not so "sorted". They don't know how to act or relate to men. Similarly, if I grow up without a mother, I would be totally mucked up, because my mum gives me an idea on how to live life. I think there are so many qualities in having a mother and a father around you the whole time. It's mostly obvious that those that don't just miss out. *But not wanting to offend anyone that has grown up in a single-parent family*
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