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Post by dream10 on Mar 16, 2002 18:57:37 GMT -5
I just read that in California, in 1997, the governor expressed his willingness to consider executing 13 year olds. I also read that since 1979 13 people under 18 have been executed, nine in the US. The other countries have outlawed juvenile executions. Fourteen states have set the lowest age for the death penatly at 18, sixteen have it at between 14 and 17, and seven have no minimum age. My question is do you think age matters? If a 14 year old murderd someone should he/she be executed?
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Post by x n0ise on Mar 17, 2002 14:39:13 GMT -5
I think the Death Penalty is very wrong. I think a murder should result with a miserable life in jail until they die. Because I believe that most people would rather die than to be sent to jail(I know I would).
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Post by sunny.side.up on Mar 20, 2002 14:10:22 GMT -5
I have a question for everyone who believes the Bible justifies death penalty: what would you believe if there was no Bible, or any other holy book that you chose to believe in? And if you would hold the same opinion, why?
~*Esther*~
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Post by pettyluv on Mar 20, 2002 16:31:19 GMT -5
Oh gosh, if I wasnt a Christian, I think that my views on this subject and many more would be much more extreme. I think that Christianity for me kind of balences out my view point on many things.
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Post by It's~A~Nova on Mar 20, 2002 18:06:16 GMT -5
[glow=pink,2,300]I can't see how the Bible justifies the death penalty. If it does than it's contradicting itself. What about 'Thou Shalt Not Kill'? The death penalty is killing, no matter what the circumstances around it are. [/glow]
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Post by pettyluv on Mar 20, 2002 18:25:19 GMT -5
^I really think that aspect has been talked to death (pardon the pun) and I really do not wish to restate the verses that I feel support capital punishment. If you want to see the argument for I am sure it is all over numerous of the previous pages.
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Post by Ich Liebe Rammstein on Mar 24, 2002 20:33:05 GMT -5
I dont think its right. Its the same as one murderer. Its a crime. Even though they do it to "guilty" people and not to the innocent its still wrong. I get so mad when I think about it. I mean,like I even CRIED when I heard about Timothy McVeigh. That still hurts me inside . I dont see what the point of it is. They could sentence them to life in prison for all I care. I mean they still get to live their life,instead of being *killed* by someone... But this is juz me. ~~~~~~Heather,(Edward Furlong,Mike Shinoda,Chester Bennington,KidRock & Joe C. LOVER!!!!!! Linkin Park RULES!!!!!!)
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Post by pettyluv on Mar 24, 2002 21:46:23 GMT -5
^^I feel absolutely no compassion for someone like McVeigh who killed hundreds of people. Wouldn't it be nice if the people he slaughtered family's could see them again? He destroyed the lives of so many people. He did not deserve to keep his, he was not worthy, he was an enemy of the state and of liberty. When you make that choice to end somebody's life you give yours away.
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Post by Semi-Charmed.Life on Mar 24, 2002 22:21:34 GMT -5
^But isn't dying the easy way out? As I said earlier, your strapped down to a stretcher and injected with some poison. Whats the punishment in that? Isn't sitting in a jail cell having to put up with what you have done worse?
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Post by pettyluv on Mar 24, 2002 22:24:51 GMT -5
Well, you get three square meals in a day, time to work out and socialize with fellow inmates, in some cases even cable TV! Why should they live in this situation at the tax payer's expense?
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Post by Semi-Charmed.Life on Mar 24, 2002 23:41:16 GMT -5
You see, I don't agree the way the system is run. The inmates should be given food ( they’re still human) but the other privileges their given are ridiculous.I still believe that the whole notion of "an eye for an eye" is wrong but many disagree. Soon, we'll all be blind.
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Post by sunny.side.up on Mar 25, 2002 11:44:04 GMT -5
>>Well, you get three square meals in a day, time to work out and socialize with fellow inmates, in some cases even cable TV! Why should they live in this situation at the tax payer's expense?<<
So do you think it's fun to be in prison? Hello, it's one of the worst places in the US! 'socialize with fellow inmates', yeah right, as if they're all friendly and kind to each other. I saw something on tv about a prison where the inmates who were together in one room, actually fought over the food that they got; sometimes they just didn't get anything to eat for couple of days because they hadn't been able to get their hands on anything. The time to work out and the tv are probably just to keep them from going nuts (as far as they haven't yet). Believe me, prison is a punishment.
>>still believe that the whole notion of "an eye for an eye" is wrong but many disagree.<<
I do agree... What progress is it when you kill someone because (s)he killed someone else? Maybe someone doesn't deserve to live after killing someone (although I think that person does), but killing that person lowers you to their level - only it's justified because it's in the law. Do you realize that the USA is one of the few Western countries that still use death penalty as a punishment? The reason most other countries got rid of it, is because most people agreed that it's inhumane to kill someone for a crime (please note: I'm not saying that you or the USA or anyone else is being inhumane). You're doing the exact same thing the murderer did! Why don't you realize that? It's still killing - no matter what laws there are saying that it's ok.
~*Esther*~
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Post by Ich Liebe Rammstein on Apr 9, 2002 19:13:32 GMT -5
<<<<^^I feel absolutely no compassion for someone like McVeigh who killed hundreds of people. Wouldn't it be nice if the people he slaughtered family's could see them again? He destroyed the lives of so many people. He did not deserve to keep his, he was not worthy, he was an enemy of the state and of liberty. When you make that choice to end somebody's life you give yours away. >>>>
Yeah,but dont you think ppl like him would still wanna live their life. Its his life and he chose to harm someone else's. Im not saying what he did was right. But,to me,he was killed for killing,and to me,its the same thing. Its not right either way.
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Post by pettyluv on Apr 9, 2002 19:31:39 GMT -5
<<Yeah,but dont you think ppl like him would still wanna live their life. >>
Frankly, I don't care if someone like that "wants" to live. When you make such a choice you sign your own life away. The Founding Fathers saw the capital punishment as just, as so do I.
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Post by KattyKatie on Apr 10, 2002 15:57:03 GMT -5
For the people who believe the Bible supports capital punishment: Does the Bible not also say "Judge not lest ye be judged"? Meaning that if you are going to judge somebody to have committed a crime worthy of death, are you willing to be judged on that same level? And does it not also say that [glow=red,2,300]NOBODY[/glow] other than God has the right to take another person's life?
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